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More Red Light Cameras Possible in Smithtown's Future

Suffolk County seeks town's permission to conduct traffic study to consider placing red light cameras at 7 additional intersections throughout the town.

Smithtown officials will approve the county's request to study high-traffic intersections in the Town of Smithtown to possibly install more red light cameras. 

Vanessa Baird-Streeter, spokeswoman for Suffolk executive Steve Bellone, said the county sent a letter to the Town of Smithtown on Jan. 18 in hopes of expanding its Red Light Safety Program. 

"We have a red light camera program and we are looking to expand that program to ensure safe traversal on their roadways," she said. 

In 2009, Suffolk created the Red Light Safety Program that allowed officials to install and monitor 50 intersections. Now, they are looking to place red-light cameras at another 50 high-trafffic intersections across the county, according to Baird-Streeter. 

There are seven intersections being considered for red light cameras in the Town of Smithtown based on New York State Department of Motor Vehicle's right-angle crash data: 

  • Terry Road and Nichols Road, Hauppauge
  • Adams Avenue and Oser Avenue, Hauppauge
  • Moriches Road and Lake Avenue, St. James
  • Smithtown Boulevard and Old Nichols Road, Nesconset
  • Smithtown Boulevard and Lake Avenue South, Nesconset
  • Indian Head Road and Meadow Road, Kings Park
  • Smithtown Boulevard and Nesconset Boulevard, Nesconest

Further details on what methods will be used to study these intersections for the need to install a red light camera were not immediately available from the county. 

Many of these intersections involve a county road meeting a town own road, and will require an inter-municipal agreement between Suffolk and Smithtown before the project can move forward.

Smithtown officials are willing to allow Suffolk to study these intersections, but are cautious about signing off on permitting more red light cameras. 

"Is this just a money making scheme for the county who shares in the revenue or is there a real need," Supervisor Patrick Vecchio said. 

Matthew Jakubowski, Smithtown's deputy town attorney, said if town officials were to sign off on the county's proposal, it would give permission to both study the intersection and install red light cameras as they see fit. 

"The better course of action is a similar letter agreement to let them do the letter study first, then if they find they want to go into the intersection and install a camera have a subsequent agreement," Jakubowski said. "It's a more prudent approach." 

Smithtown officials agreed to write the county to carry out traffic studies at the seven high-traffic intersections. Based on those findings, town officials will decide whether to allow the red light cameras. 

Similar requests were sent out to all Suffolk townships, according Baird-Streeter, who have yet to respond. 

Marion Knott January 30, 2013 at 07:04 pm
Two years ago in California we went through a yellow light as it was turning red, we paid five hundred, husband spent the summer taking an online course. Still, I believe in the camera system. The only problem is that there should be a warning that you are "approaching" a camera since I have seen it happen where a driver sees the camera, stops suddenly and almost causes a crash. A sign telling you that there is a camera ahead might be wise. No one likes people who "jump" a light but no one wants to be a cause of an accident from the car behind.
We Heart Long Island January 30, 2013 at 07:09 pm
Every red light camera intersection has a sign posted before the intersection. It's part of the law in NY.
KP January 30, 2013 at 07:22 pm
John K. Massaro - are you seriously going to call out the nurse on her "shenanigans" when you are illegally covering your license plate so as not to get a ticket at the RLC's and you're bragging about it?
John K Massaro January 30, 2013 at 07:38 pm
I guess I am. No argument from me...
Kinda ruins your day, doesn't it?
John Gruber January 30, 2013 at 07:53 pm
it's good to know if someone rear ends me and I go pass the line I have to pay a tax for someone else's incompetence
John Gruber January 30, 2013 at 07:54 pm
not true at all. I can post pictures of several intersections by me that do not have the sign at all corners of an intersection
Greg Martinez January 30, 2013 at 08:01 pm
Amen Pat Vecchio.
BTW, I believe those flashing lights for the cameras are dangerous and distracting for drivers.
We Heart Long Island January 30, 2013 at 08:19 pm
No you can't. They all have them.
We Heart Long Island January 30, 2013 at 08:21 pm
Not all intersections have a camera at every approach. Any part of an intersection that has a camera has a sign.
Aidan January 31, 2013 at 12:21 am
The first one on the list, Terry Road and Nichols Road is in the Town of Islip, not Smithtown. How does Smithtown evaluate an intersection not in their town?
They probably need to move onto signals they control, because last year, it was in Newsday as well as documented that red light camera intersections had yellow times too short. As a result, NYSDOT corrected the red light time, probably reducing the revenue.
Karen MacDougall January 31, 2013 at 12:38 am
I would like to let the person/people who think we always have staff in the OR at night that we do not. probably about half the time we have 1 nurse there and the rest is covered by on call staff. If someone has a car accident and has a cracked skull and is bleeding into their brain, do you really think I should sit there at a light when I am perfectly capable of safely stopping, looking and proceeding? If there was a child drowning in a pond with a sign that says do not trespass, would you not of course save the child? Things are often not as black and white as they seem. Yes, many times they are, but not this time.
Steve January 31, 2013 at 01:14 am
yes those flashing lights are a safety hazard at night
Rob ONeil January 31, 2013 at 02:54 am
Big brother is coming closer and faster than you think. Where the cameras are, the yellow lights are quick. Speeding has nothing to do with being caught in a turn lane and the light changing red. It would be nice of we lived in a nice wide open space like North Dakota, but we don't. We have an overpopulated area with constant bumber to bumper bad drivers. If it is from a safety point of view- delay the green light for an extra twoseconds
Rob ONeil January 31, 2013 at 02:56 am
And allow everything to come to a stop. No need for one side to go red and the otger side to go green immediately
George W January 31, 2013 at 01:28 pm
I'm not sure of this, but I heard that those were license plate reading cameras.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_number_plate_recognition
Irisheyes January 31, 2013 at 01:40 pm
You're right, esp. about Lake Ave. and Smithtown Blvd.
By the way, if there is a street called "Nesconset Blvd." intersecting Smithtown Blvd., would someone tell me where it is? (Nesconset HIGHWAY and Terry Rd. and already has cameras.) There are many accidents at Lake So. and the Bypass. However, before putting in a camera, I would suggest changing the TIMING of the light. You wait forever on Lake at that corner and good luck waiting for the green arrow to turn from 347 onto Lake.
Irisheyes January 31, 2013 at 01:58 pm
With a letter from the hospital attesting to those exact circumstances, you should beat the ticket. In the alternative, your union should help you on that, even get the ticket paid.
Um, just wondering, how often does this happen to you? In another example, the instructor at my first Defensive Driving course told us that the reason volunteer firefighters are no longer allowed to run red lights is that there was too much abuse when the person was, in fact, NOT responding to a call. Pretty sad.
Stevo January 31, 2013 at 02:38 pm
Maybe you should be given a little red siren for these instances.
luckecharmz January 31, 2013 at 05:06 pm
I think that it is a money maker for the county. Also keep in mind that they would be up all over the place if the town got money for it. I think that it is something that we don't need. Just like no turn on red. How hard is it to look and if you see no cars coming then go. You learn this when you are a kid. How about watch that gap on the LIRR. How hard it it when you see a gap step over it. Thank god that there is a sign other wise we would have people falling on the tacks all day. Just like some of you said it is judgement call. If the road is wet or ice?? Speed?? If we lived in a perfect world nobody would speed but that is not the case.
Mitch January 31, 2013 at 05:14 pm
Green Go Yellow slow Red Stop- problem solved.
Liberty January 31, 2013 at 09:48 pm
I read that Vecchio is against this but how do the rest of the councilman stand on the issue ?
John Gruber February 1, 2013 at 04:51 pm
its very possible to drive at the speed limit and still get caught between a light. And then when the guy behind you tailgates you and then rear ends you when you have to make that stop you're gonna wish you tried to speed up
GS February 1, 2013 at 06:25 pm
If constituents are against something does it even matter anymore?
We Heart Long Island February 1, 2013 at 06:31 pm
Most people stop for red lights and don't care if there is a camera there.
Al Dailong February 1, 2013 at 08:54 pm
Except that its not true. Unless you have gotten the picture back and can prove it, there are many tests which show that your plastic cover will do nothing to protect you, including the show Mythbusters, which found the following: http://mythbustersresults.com/episode73 . Anyways, I don't think you should even be allowed to drive if you're scheming on how to break the law and get away with it.
Al Dailong February 1, 2013 at 09:01 pm
@John, I actually tend to drive near the speed limit, so I never have to slam on my brakes. Funny thing really. So I think PW and I will be singing the same tune for quite some time. Have fun getting T-boned
Dave b February 3, 2013 at 12:23 pm
Rt. 347 has a 55 mph speed limit.when the light turns yellow many people like myself jam on the brakes.At 55 mph you will need extra space to stop.This in my eyes is dangerous .Many people accelerate when the light changes to yellow .Their speed goes a lot higher than 55 which can cause an accident.
Clear teething February 3, 2013 at 03:38 pm
Stinking cops r 2 busy shaking down drug dealers and harassing good citizens to do anything useful
Jeff Cohn February 11, 2013 at 11:11 pm
If you want to see a map of the red light cameras in the surrounding areas on NY look at http://photoenforced.com/ny.html
We Heart Long Island February 11, 2013 at 11:54 pm
This isn't very accurate. They show none on Vets which actually has at least three. This shows all on LI http://www.newsday.com/long-island/transportation/red-light-cameras-on-long-island-1.2224592

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