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Nesconset Taxpayers Association Blasts Sonic Proposal

The association says the proposed location for the restaurant isn't appropriate for the area.

A proposal to bring a Sonic restaurant is being met with opposition by the Nesconset Taxpayers Association, a local civic.

"This is a poor location for a drive-in service," said Seth Weinberg, member of the group. "It's on a residential street that already has a fair amount of traffic and at an intersection with a fair amount of traffic. It will border homes, increase the noise and air pollution."

Weinberg said he speaks for the whole group in opposing the Sonic plan.

Smithtown's Zoning Board of Appeals is set to hold a public hearing on the Tuesday at 7 p.m. at the Eugene A. Cannataro Senior Citizen Center.

The proposed site for the Sonic is on the corner of Middle Country Road and Alexander Avenue, located near the Smith Haven Mall.

An attorney representing Valley Stream-based Serota Smithtown LLC will present detailed plans for the , a 1950s diner-style restaurant its outdoor food service as an accessory use to its indoor seating, according to a Newsday article.

In the opinion of Weinberg, speaking for himself and not the Taxpayers, he suggests other nearby locations that would be a better fit for Sonic.

"If you go across the street where Checkers is [there are] four acres of undeveloped, commercial real estate that has no homes bordering it at all," he said. "It has access from [Route] 347, right near the mall."

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robkoz June 26, 2012 at 07:23 pm
"If you go across the street where Checkers is [there are] four acres of undeveloped, commercial real estate that has no homes bordering it at all," he said. "It has access from [Route] 347, right near the mall."
If someone was actually paying attention you would notice that Checkers is dead. Fat asses and clogged arteries are out. The middle class of Smithtown are actually getting smart by actually cooking their own lunches, dinners and going out for walks. The town should do everyone a favor and bulldoze Checkers and replant the thousands of trees they wrecked. As for Sonic, no loss.
Nesconset Dude June 26, 2012 at 07:43 pm
"Fat asses and clogged arteries are out." LOL! Were they ever intentionally in? Wait, I've seen what some of the modern high school trends in past years, so don't answer that. If they want to build, then build. At least, though, put it somewhere it belongs. This seems to be the common thing of late: building something in a place where it does not fit or belong. I know Chris D'Antonio is going to swoop in here any time now with some modern planning facts, but we need common sense in Smithtown township, not cash grabs and pointless development when there are plenty of shuttered businesses all over the place. Smart development has nothing to do with leveling every last tract of open space. Truthfully, I have no idea how they would fit Sonic on this corner, it's so small.
Dan Munoz June 26, 2012 at 07:58 pm
I strongly believe the proposed location is no good. However, I also believe this is a business like any other, and they have every right to do business. So, put it somewhere it fits in. When Sonic opened last year, I was the first person I know to say: "They should build another one near here on the south side of 347 between MCR and Alexander Ave." Sonic is a well known company, and if they build it, customers will come.
Faith Turuta June 27, 2012 at 12:06 am
Me Too, Bernice. I totally agree
Seawolf Fan June 27, 2012 at 06:06 pm
I have to agree..
Phil July 2, 2012 at 05:47 am
Although Houlihans would not bound any residential property, The bottomline is middle country, can not handle the traffic generated by sonic, and moriches road, would suffer the same fate as alexander ave with insane traffic backups if they dont allow traffic to back up on MCR. In deer park, sonic put employees in reflective vests on the sidewalks of Deer Park avenue, directing sonic patrons onto the shoulder to ease the traffic burden on 231 itself, but the traffic still backed up nearly 3 miles. MCR has no shoulder, and a traffic backup like they had on 231 would stretch passed 347 into the single lane portion of Jericho into st. james. So where would they direct the backup? Down Alexander? or Down Moriches.. both bad ideas. Also, the zoning does not allow a counter service restaurant in WSI, thats why they need a special exception. So essentially, its against the law to build there, and they want an exception. So why the law? Add to this variances looking to: • Request: Special Exception to permit a 2,100 sq.ft. restaurant;
• Variance of a special exception to permit a counter service restaurant to have outdoor dining; • Variance to permit outdoor dining in WSI district; • Permit 22 loud speakers at locations • Reduce required landscape islands from 9 to 1; • Increase number of ground signs from 1 to 32;
Phil July 2, 2012 at 05:47 am
continued:
- Increase max. area of ground signs from 40 sq.ft. to 739 sq.ft.; • Increase number of wall signs from 1 to 7; • Increase height of 2 wall signs from 15 ft. to 20 ft.; • Increase height of 1 wall sign from 15 ft. to 21 ft.; • Permit 3 wall signs not facing a public street; look at the extremes they are lookinbg for..,.. 22 Louspeakers, 32 ground signs when the town only allows 1, increase signage from 40 sq ft to 732 sq ft and decrease the required size of a landscape island fro 9 feet to 1 foot.. Worse of all, all of this is to go 57 feet from the backyard property lines of 5 homes. So when these folks are sitting in their yard, they get to look at sonics drivin stalls about 6 car lengths away. The drive proposed on Alexcander avenue will be about 8 feet from a residential driveway on Alexander. folks are abusing the residents for NIMBY.. this this is just unfair.. because IS esentially RIGHT IN their backyard.. their property values will plummet, and they thought the zoning would protect them from this type of establishment. Soic is asking the BZA to modify the zoning that has protect them all along.. No one signed up for that.
Kathie July 3, 2012 at 10:28 pm
does anyone know the update on Sonic?? How do we find out what the BZA ruled on it?
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Cathryn S June 18, 2013 at 09:06 pm
You are absolutely right pj. Its comparing apples to oranges. Assisted living is for the elderlyRead More that cant take care of themselves. What noise is created. They are indoors and at the age where driving may not be an option. And the facility faces Route 25A. A main corridor that has been used as a main road for over 50 years. A road that has gas stations,bars, hospitals, nursing homes, retail stores and high schools presently on it. Why not an assisted living.
P. J. Miller June 18, 2013 at 10:06 pm
Exactly. Don't see a problem having it. Many of them don't even go outdoors.
Lilly June 19, 2013 at 09:05 am
We have an assisted living center right next to our neighborhood. For the most part it is quiet,Read More there is not a lot more traffic, it even looks nice. I will take it over another strip mall, supermarket, bar any day . Like the previous poster wrote, it serves our community.
Vick w June 18, 2013 at 08:18 am
how is this allowed!!! I thought sex offenders were not allowed to live or be within a certainRead More amount of feet from a school or park or playground???? This "person" is young also, born in 1990 so he might blend in by the high school. he raped an 11 year old girl and only got 2 years in prison.
Vick w June 18, 2013 at 08:22 am
to see the pig, click or copy link belowRead More http://www.criminaljustice.ny.gov/SomsSUBDirectory/offenderDetails.jsp?offenderid=34309
Nick June 18, 2013 at 04:06 pm
2 years in prison!!....I think a zero should have been added to his sentence.... If I were theRead More father of the 11 year old he would not be walking around today!
knee jerk June 17, 2013 at 09:02 am
Nice. While waiting for the gates to go up, you could have viewed some of the direlect buildings inRead More town.
knee jerk June 17, 2013 at 08:58 am
Creten?
The Smithtown Avenger June 17, 2013 at 12:19 pm
I don't think the town has a say in it. That is the good old MTA.
June Kempf June 13, 2013 at 09:14 am
As past president of the Sufolk County chapter of MDA and 30 year volunteer, I would like to urgeRead More young men in the community to take the challenge and enrich your lives as well as the families of vicitms of this dread disease. You have no idea how much you will be needed and appreciated. Go for it!