Suffolk Notebook: Bellone Defends Commish Over Double Dipping

County Executive says Edward Webber is legally allowed to collect his pension.

Suffolk County Executive Steve Bellone delivered a stern defense this week of newly hired police commissioner Edward Webber after reports that the top cop is set to make more than $321,000 a year between his pension and new salary.

Bellone defended Webber's double dipping by pointing to the county's $2 million in police overtime savings this year and that fact that what the commissioner is doing is perfectly legal, according to a CBS report.

Bellone also intends to give county's legislature another opportunity to approve Webber in the post, a sign he said the will prove the confidence county lawmakers have in commissioner.

Webber, who is 65 years old, will pull in a pension near $158,000, Newsday reported, on top of his commissioner's salary of $162,760 a year.

IDA Benefits for British Firm

The Suffolk County Industrial Agency will dish out tax incentives to a British cloud computing firm that plans to expand and hire at its Huntington facility.

As part of the IDA's BOOST program, the county will support VLI North America, which plans to invest more than $100,000 in upgrades to its Long Island location and will hire another 20 workers. The BOOST program focuses on smaller incentive programs to help smaller firms instead of traditional IDA packages in the past meant to support large-scale employers.

VLI will receive $38,000 in property tax abatements and $10,500 in sales tax exemptions on equipment.

IDA Gets New Website

Bellone this week also announced a new website for the IDA that he hopes will give businesses more access to the county's incentive options.

"We need to make sure our pro-economic development message is being delivered to the business community,” Bellone said in a statement. “Retaining our jobs and helping to create new ones is of the highest priority and this new website serves an avenue for local companies to learn about the IDA's incentives and read about the success stories.”

To see it in action, click here.

RSmith Albert September 30, 2012 at 03:00 AM
You people are clueless, if he retired and didn't accept the appointment by bellone, the county would be paying his salary and the salary of someone not as qualified to do the job!! He had earned every penny and gets the job done. He is an upstanding citizen and I respect this man for all he has done for the SCPD!!!
James Stanton September 30, 2012 at 06:12 AM
Rsmith must be one of his boys in blue. What did good old Eddie promise you some OT? Give you a superior office PBA card? Of coarse Ballone will let the board revote to reapprove his post cause he knows they will vote him in their all cronies. As everyone else said no wonder why we have a huge deficit because of CROOKS who hide behind a shield collecting salary, pension( that he earned years ago by chasing kids from drinking in the schoolyard and drinking coffee at seven eleven) and most likely his social security. Think good old Steve Ballone didn't know about this before he was appointed? Get real he purposely kept it from the public and hoped noone realized. There should be a 100k salary cap for any civil servant an that's being very generous.
SMYRNA-X September 30, 2012 at 10:25 AM
Whats wrong with doing a job, retiring from it, then taking a new job for a salary? It happens in the private sector, why is it frowned upon in public? Because its the publics money? "Double dipping" as something wrong or unethical is disrespectful to the people who work these govt jobs and makes them generally more inclined to take thier experience to the private sector. We all lose when that experience picks up and leaves.
Glenn Stordeur September 30, 2012 at 10:29 AM
Where is Levy when you need him? "The last official act of any Government is to loot the Treasury". -George Washington
Stinker September 30, 2012 at 10:49 AM
I working full time at my job, making almost $200,000.00 per year. I am also on unemployment and NY State Disability. I get dressed up in my worst weekend lawnmowing clothes and get bags of food from the Catholic Church and then I apply for food stamps, get them and use them to stock the house with food for a big party I am throwing to thank all of the bureaucrats that have adamantly defended my right to ''double dip''.....which is so sweet, they named a cone after it on the icecream trurck! Perhaps if you didn't call it double dipping and called it fraudulent stealing, it would conjure up the applicable outrage.
Justin Time September 30, 2012 at 11:14 AM
Webber is one of the few that will be able to live on Long Island hence that great salary pension. Keep passing those budgets so we can give more officials great benefits. They almost get as much as our teachers do! Now how silly is that? Wake up people.
Cindy September 30, 2012 at 11:20 AM
I totally agree. Now a days only union workers can afford to retire. The double dipping doesn't bother me because we would have to pay a new commissioner a salary anyway, but the fact is the retirement package is way too generous. Multiply that amount by all the police commissioners in the county and the fire commissioners and the board of education presidents, etc. and you can see why taxes are so high.
Argile September 30, 2012 at 12:12 PM
Because in the private sector you invest in your own retirement. Here the public is paying for both of them.
Carla September 30, 2012 at 12:26 PM
Right On! School and local tax goes UP. our home values go DOWN ! Can you see where this is going ?
Argile September 30, 2012 at 12:28 PM
Levy was great! He's the only one that had the courage to stand up against illegal immigration and the police unions. And look where we are now, broke and overtaxed because of all the freeloaders and greedy unions.
Paul L. September 30, 2012 at 02:17 PM
If it is legal, make it illegal and just because it is legal doesn't make it the right thing to do.
edmund September 30, 2012 at 09:11 PM
Give this job to someone who don't have a job in first place ,,,, see our greeting government all for me me me and nothing for you
Sheldon September 30, 2012 at 11:28 PM
With interest rates at 3% a non-union worker without pension benefits would have to save $5,275,000 in after-tax, after-mortgage, after-children's education money to earn a $158,000 per year income in retirement. That's how valuable Webber must be. I sure hope he is not able to accumulate additional retirement benefits and medical on this new job Bellone thinks he is so wortht of.
Justin Time October 01, 2012 at 08:17 PM
We wont hold our breath, now will we!
Joan October 02, 2012 at 04:40 PM
WHY is ANY public servant making $162,760 a year!!???? WHY??? In this time of economic crisis they should be ASHAMED of themselves and then double dipping as well. The people of Suffolk County are responsible for this by not voting these greedy politicians out of office and demanding that these outrageous salaries be reduced by HALF.
Joan October 02, 2012 at 04:45 PM
@robkoz You might want to learn something about the history of unions and why they are still needed before you revile them and demand that they be outlawed. Unions have played an extremely important role in the history of America and those that "have" would like to see them gone to expand their bottom lines and turn the American workers into the slave workers of China. YOU sir are part of the PROBLEM.
Joan October 02, 2012 at 04:47 PM
@SMYRNA-X NO rural public service job should pay $162,000. PERIOD
Argile October 02, 2012 at 04:59 PM
There's a BIG difference between the unions of the past and the unions of the present. ESPECIALLY since I'm union I know what I'm talking about. Unions today are a pale shadow of what they used to be. When unions become lobbyists for politicians, THAT is when they have lost their way.
Argile October 02, 2012 at 05:01 PM
This post is rich. You scold me for taking a stance against unions then post this? LOL Why is any public servant making $162K+? Why don't you ask your Board of Education that question..
John Gruber October 02, 2012 at 05:12 PM
unions are one of the biggest reasons for out-sourcing. when factories were essentially death traps, THAT'S when they were needed, not to inflate the wages of workers so that it becomes cheaper to produce in other countries. Unions drive up the wages of workers so badly companies have no other choice other than to outsource otherwise their products would be to expensive to sell. THAT'S the problem with unions, they've overstepped their bounds to badly
Mary Beth October 02, 2012 at 05:25 PM
Mr. Gruber, you are completely, entirely, absolutely wrong. In fact, German auto makers build twice as many cars as US automakers while paying their workers twice as much http://www.forbes.com/sites/frederickallen/2011/12/21/germany-builds-twice-as-many-cars-as-the-u-s-while-paying-its-auto-workers-twice-as-much/
Mary Beth October 02, 2012 at 05:28 PM
The majority of coal mining related deaths and injuries happen at NON-UNION mines. Study finds fewer fatalities, injuries at union mines CHARLESTON, W.Va.--Underground coal mines that are unionized have significantly fewer traumatic injuries and fatalities per miner than nonunion mines, a federally backed study by a Stanford Law School professor concludes. Representatives from the United Mine Workers of America, which has seen its ranks gradually wane in the face of mine companies' efforts to shake unionization, seized on the study Wednesday. They said it was proof of their mission. The comments also come in the wake of a report released last week on the Upper Big Branch mine disaster that concluded the company-backed safety measures at the non-union mine owned by Massey Energy Co. were inadequate. In the past two decades, there have been 18-33 percent fewer traumatic injuries per miner in union mines than nonunion mines and 27-68 percent fewer fatalities per miner, according to a draft of the study sponsored by the National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health. http://www.dailymail.com/News/201105251195
Argile October 02, 2012 at 06:44 PM
Here's the full article: http://www.remappingdebate.org/article/tale-two-systems?page=0,0 Interesting quotes: "When asked why German firms operate so differently with respect to labor in different countries, Claude Barfield, a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute where he studies international trade and globalization, told Remapping Debate that they do so, in part, “because they can get away with it so far.” Interesting article. The problem with the US auto corps is union workers didn't get paid as much and the companies still needed a bailout. I'd like to know if Germany exports more cars than the US.
Justin Time October 02, 2012 at 09:39 PM
All educators are over paid in Suffolk AND Nassau, why should it be any different in the political arena? Wonder how long taxpayers can survive until an uprising occurs! Keep passing those budgets..silly people.
Lee October 03, 2012 at 12:29 AM
Keep having more than two kids per family and then complain about the school taxes collected to educate your little darlings...silly people...
Argile October 06, 2012 at 01:32 PM
School taxes in Nassau might go up 29% and in East Islip property taxes might to up 65%. Where the hell do the people that make these decisions think people are going to get all this money from?!
Meadow Lane October 06, 2012 at 01:42 PM
BS! Taxes are capped at 2% and they're based on school spending. Do your research.
Argile October 06, 2012 at 02:06 PM
Oh really? Apparently the only thing BS around here is your facts. Next time keep up with current events so you don't sound like a dumbass next time you post. http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/10/05/exclusive-shocking-school-tax-hikes-hit-nassau-county/
Argile October 06, 2012 at 02:32 PM
And I suggest you pick up a copy of today's Newday and read up.
Richie October 28, 2012 at 12:25 PM
Bring back Levy


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