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Voters Approve Smithtown's School Budget

Votes in favor trump rejecting votes by nearly 2,000.

Voters passed a $215 million budget Tuesday for the 2012-2013 school year. With a final tally of 3,587 to 1,618, homeowners within the Smithtown Central School district can expect to see a 2.23 percent increase in their collective tax levy in the following year. 

The district announced in April that the now approved budget would result in the . The cuts, according to the district, would result in savings of more than $3 million.

In February prior to the budget process,, a move fueled by lower enrollment and a projected cost savings to the district of an estimated $960,000.

Both current board member , who was appointed by the board to take over the seat vacated by former Vice President Scott Martella who resigned in November of last year, and St. James resident Matthew Morton, ran unopposed. Current board member Joseph Saggese did not run for re-election.

Voting took place from 6 a.m. to 9 p.m. at Nesconset Elementary, Accompsett Elementary, Smithtown Elementary and St. James Elementary.

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hrosen May 16, 2012 at 03:51 PM
Totally wrong one...next year we bust the tap cap! WOO HOO!
One Opinion May 16, 2012 at 04:06 PM
Do your parents know you're using the computer?
Jimmy Bones May 16, 2012 at 04:13 PM
The vote wasn't even close. It passed by a landslide!
jozee May 16, 2012 at 04:16 PM
@rob your absolutely right! if your over 65 you should not be paying school taxes, i am not against teachers, my daughter is a teacher but why should i be paying for childrens education, when i dont have any!! maybe someday that will happen.
We Heart Long Island May 16, 2012 at 04:19 PM
I'm under 50 so I don't want to pay for medicaid and medicare. Oh I don't use the library either. Don't use most of the roads on LI. I'll pay for maintenance on the ones I use. Don't use the parks .......
Smithtown Rez May 16, 2012 at 05:00 PM
Bob - citizens vote in the board of ed, who negotiate the contacts. Same thing. If you were unhappy with what those Reps were doing when they put in this expensive pension obligation back in the day, you should have voted them out.
Smithtown Rez May 16, 2012 at 05:07 PM
You are going on the assumption that those who did not vote are against the budget. Those that do not vote are typically known as the apathetic majority, which means a they are okay with what is proposed. If there are sooo many people in town suffering, they should have been able to trounce the supporters of the budget since so many stayed home...under your theory. Reform pensions and retiree healthcare...that is the real solution. Cutting back on honors programs, growing class sizes, eliminating enrichment, etc, because a 25 year retired teacher's benefits keep going up is not the solution.
Gail Vitale Orsomarso May 16, 2012 at 05:09 PM
My dad was a teacher at first many yrs ago then got his MBA( actually had 4 degrees) and managed a school budget that was fair and passed every yr without any loss to the students in activites, music or busing. He was the honest to the penny! Few of them around today!
Smithtown Rez May 16, 2012 at 05:09 PM
Give me back my social security money that is funding you right now...thanks. As I said above, school district reputation supports home values. Feel free to buy your exact home in an awful school district. You will get a great deal.
Gail Vitale Orsomarso May 16, 2012 at 05:20 PM
@ Bob Ewald You are right, it takes a great deal of experience and education way beyond book work to run the school budgets correctly and my dad did. Budget passed every yr without cuts to the children in a different school district until he retired. Actually, I made a mistake. My dad had his Bachelors, 2 Masters, A Doctorate for his MBA and I believe and EDD too. It takes a great deal of experience to do the job right and he did.
Sticks60 May 16, 2012 at 05:29 PM
The future of this and our next 2 budgets were set with the passing of the new teachers and administrators contracts. In all of that was done with a public discussion of maybe 20 minutes top. He is a number of everyone to think about and see if this makes sense. The average high school or middle school teacher with their 5 periods of class receives between salary and benifits $218 per hour next year. If they happen to be in the top top 30 year level we are looking at $290 per hour. Some how I think with all of the best minds involved we can better utilzed these employees to get a little better productivety.
HeyJoe May 16, 2012 at 05:44 PM
i voted for the budget but would have voted against any incumbant on the school board for giving the incoming superintendant an excessive contract in this time of cuts to students programs,layoffs, and a school closing. a message needed to be sent about that but unfortunately the incumbant ran unoppossed.
mark May 16, 2012 at 06:16 PM
Everyone who lives in smithown, lives in a community. That what a community is and everyshares the cost. I too wonder if i can afford to live in smithtown when i retire. But i paid top dollar for my house because of the schools. I live in the city before i had kids. I saw first hand and still do see kids getting involved in all bad stuff such as rape, drugs, sexual intercourse in the stair case, distrubtions in the class rooms etc. I dont want that kind of life for my kids. Thats the cost. One important note price per student is investment is alot more than our annual property taxes. Thats why even parents that are older or their kids are no longer in school, still pay their full taxes because its a community, and eveyone had invested in their kids prior. By the way i dont work for the schools. :-)
mark May 16, 2012 at 06:23 PM
Too continue on prior comment, what we need is a final say so on smithown schools contracts. Let us the tax payers have a vote at the sametime of yearly school budget to approve city contracts, since we are paying for their salaries.
stjamesBri May 16, 2012 at 06:30 PM
Hey sadday, I want my social security that they take from my check every two weeks back then. You know, the social security that I'm paying so you can "survive" that will no longer be around when I retire in 25 years. It is called an investment in the future and an investment in the area you live in. Just like Smithtown Rez said, you want to pay less taxes? Then sell your house, move to Brentwood or CI and leave any profit you made because of increased real estate in an escrow account for us. So people paid for your kids to go to school but you will now not pay for others? Sounds fair. Get over it.
littleShamrock May 16, 2012 at 07:31 PM
One thing I always got annoyed with was paying high taxes and had to rush to fill out my STAR form on time, but as for someone who IS NOT a senior and DOES NOT have children, sometimes I wish I could get a bigger discount. There are plenty of kids out there with parents who are using their grandparents Smithtown address to get into our better school, but until we figure out a system for all we just have to deal with it, or like some said move away.
Jimmy Bones May 16, 2012 at 08:23 PM
To "We heart long Island" sounds like you dont have much of a life.
We Heart Long Island May 16, 2012 at 08:27 PM
What sounds like that?
McFizzle May 16, 2012 at 08:38 PM
I think one thing everyone can agree on is Smithtown should have had the guts to go for 6‰ and just blow right through that measly tax cap. Talk about glass ceilings. Then they could hire more and more good teachers back
Argile May 16, 2012 at 08:51 PM
Do you even live in Smithtown "We Heart Long Island" or do you just go around to message boards and troll everyone like you do at Newsday? Why don't you come to a BOE meeting. let's see if you can put your comments up to people face to face.
Sticks60 May 16, 2012 at 10:21 PM
Good point on having a full and open discussion on contracts. Let's see what happened this year that will effect us for the next 3 years. It was announced late on the Thursday before Easter that there was a deal and the vote would be the next Tuesday. Total discussion was almost nothing. There was not even of discussion of the cost in dollars until the question was asked. There went half of the budget. Then on a Monday it was announced that that administrators got a deal going for that Tuesday's meeting. No discussion. The last contract with the general workers had zero notice. Now we have to wait 3 more years before there might be a posibility of adjustments to 70% or our costs.
aweissbier May 16, 2012 at 11:26 PM
There are some 45,000 registered voters in Smithtown. People who didn't vote lose their rights to complain. Freedom is not free.
aweissbier May 16, 2012 at 11:29 PM
It's not as black and white as you would like to think. Describe your job in two sentences. Does it sound completely accurate. Why not get yourself to one of the secondary schools and see what time the staff arrives? It is very foolish to try to summarize what our educators do in two sentences. Ignorance is bliss.
McFizzle May 18, 2012 at 12:39 PM
I think it is high time us seniors band together to support our kids. Those whippersnappers need us! We should create "vote yes" bus trips that take me and my retired friends to the next vote.
sadday in smithtown May 18, 2012 at 01:15 PM
No stjames I will not get over it - I have been living in Smithtown for 55 yrs how long u been here? I paid for my SS and what I get is not very much so don't start with that. I'm 79 been paying taxes and have voted NO on all my votes for school increases. They threaten with not giving things like - rulers, paper, crayons, pencils. Did they ever supply your kids with this? NO we had to buy it so if they were supposed to where did all the $ go for this? Wait till all you people are retired you will feel the same way SO GET A LIFE and you GET OVER IT. Also my caps are not broken I am screaming at all of you cause it seems no one cares nor listens especially the school district. There are some teachers that DO EARN their money but after receive tenior (sorry spelling) alot change their ways. Sorry to say we are staying - do not want to leave a home we paid for and kept going and I still say SENIORS should not pay taxes and that means those that paid before I had kids in school - but I paid taxes then also. Our taxes were nill then compared to now and we paid for all the new schools that your children are going to today so don't give me a big line of crap thank you.
We Heart Long Island May 18, 2012 at 01:26 PM
Yes I do live in Smithtown and Yes I'm at most of the BOE meetings. That's how I know that the board knows what they are doing and spend our tax money as best they can. I don't troll on newsday. My comment here was most of the budgets passed. Why would I tell them that at a board meeting?
Rob Onion May 18, 2012 at 05:48 PM
sadday... you are spending entirely too much time in front of the computer. You are giving yourself stress for no good reason. Smithtown Patch banter is not good for you. Have an iced tea and relax.
localguy May 18, 2012 at 05:52 PM
I think maybe the teachers should be building their own retirement and not be depending on the tax payers to fund their pension for them. No one is dropping thousands into my 401k for me.
We Heart Long Island May 18, 2012 at 06:22 PM
The teachers don't depend on taxpayers to fund their pension. Their terms of employment include pension funding. The terms of employment you have has nothing to do with anyone else's.
scsddad May 19, 2012 at 01:55 AM
NYS is the ones that makeup the tiers on April 1st they made a new tier. Does anyone know if the new employees the district hires go into this tier. People that rent with kids should pay school taxes.

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