Library Budget Passes; 2 Candidates Get Trustee Seats

Budget passes by less than 300 votes.

The proposed Smithtown Special Library District budget was passed Tuesday night, and two library trustee seats were filled with one candidate retaining his seat.

The budget for 2013 totalling $13,321,568 was passed with 1,006 votes in favor to 768 in opposition.

The budget includes a 2.75 percent tax levy increase that would result in a $8.34 increase in annual taxes per household.

Suzanne Mohr will take one trustee seat while incumbent John Martins will keep his seat. Mohr received 1,157 total votes and Martins received 984 votes in victory. 

Opponents Wayne Schaefer and former library trustee Rosalind Palazzolo were defeated Tuesday. Schaefer received 624 votes and Palazzolo received 527 in defeat.

Cathy October 10, 2012 at 07:46 PM
Dear all, first of all I am far from stupid. I said my granddaughter, not my daughter who by the way lives in Brooklyn has the iPad and kindle. By telling you that I was illustrating that young people are reading electronically. The amount of people that came out and voted was pathetic. In 2010 census, there was 117000 residents in the town of smithtown. The 1006 that voted yes shows clearly how many people value their library, or should I say lack of folks that value it. I voted no, not because I don't love the library,but in this digital age, we should be cutting costs not increasing them.
Cathy October 10, 2012 at 07:50 PM
Frank, you really should try these devices, you can enlarge the font as much as you need. They are backlit. You can download audiobooks and many books including all the classics for free.
Frank October 10, 2012 at 07:57 PM
Cathy - I agree 100%
John K Massaro October 10, 2012 at 08:42 PM
I think you're absolutely right, dude. Looking back at Cathy's past posts, almost every single one starts with either "I hate..." or "I can't stand..." Over two-dozen posts & not one them is in agreement with anything anybody else says. Even her one-on-one messages dating back to last year are filled with people calling her "holier than thou" & stating "everyone is entitled to your opinion". It appears we have a troll on our hands...
John K Massaro October 10, 2012 at 08:48 PM
I love the library. I've always had a library card, no matter where I lived. I just recently took my 7 yr old son for his first library card. Every other Saturday, I take him up there, he always seems very eager to go & choose out a new book or two. I might sound a little old-fashioned, but my only wish is that they still had an old card catalog somewhere. I was a whiz with the dewey decimal system. :)
Cathy October 10, 2012 at 11:12 PM
John, I LOVE the library, I love the smell feel and look of books, but truly I realize that young people do not. They are content with this digital reality we are all living in now. My 22 year old niece who just finished college was over last week. I said I just got back from the library, and her reply was "the library, who goes to the library anymore?" I do not like that that is the world we are living in, but it is.
Cathy October 10, 2012 at 11:14 PM
Eric, download the kindle app from amazon, type in free books and you will be amazed at the amount of literature available for free. Yes free.
Cathy October 10, 2012 at 11:15 PM
Oh yes Eric, you can get a kindle for $79.
Cathy October 10, 2012 at 11:21 PM
Irisheyes, I am we'll aware of the resources at the library, I can see by all the posts on here that most of you are true library lovers, as am I. My problem is in this community where I am being attacked for saying we should not increase their budget, that ONLY 1006 people out of 100000 adults came out to vote yes. That really shows how much this town loves the library, they could not take ten minutes out of the day to vote for this treasure? Sad.
NesCon Res October 10, 2012 at 11:32 PM
Majority of this budget is for the unfriendly overstaffed workers pention and salaries. I wish people understood what they were voting for. The staff seems "inconvenienced" with questions and helping the taxpayers who approve their salary. We should know that their coffee klatch is more important.
Justinf1 October 10, 2012 at 11:35 PM
Cathy, I really love people like you. You talk about waste and cutting costs, but your grandaughter has an iPad and kindle. How redundant is that? Only 1006 voted for, but that means only 768 voted against. So not that many were upset enough to vote against it. If you think the library only has books, you obviously don't get out much. I feel sorry that you think we should cut costs because of the digital age. Why don't you take your granddaughter out instead of contributing to her anti social behavior, sitting behind a computer screen. But I doubt you will, you only go to the library so you can try to shut it down. Maybe we can use the books to provide heat in our houses by burning them. That should save us some money.
Cathy October 10, 2012 at 11:45 PM
We can all agree to disagree in a respectful , constructive manner. Unfortunately libraries are going the way of the post offices. I ask all you who think I'm nuts, ask a twenty something year old person in your life how often they go to the library? Lets not forget what happened to borders.
Justinf1 October 11, 2012 at 12:12 AM
Good idea. Lets base our decisions on what 20 something's think. I don't think a majority of young people have ever thought the library was cool. Why don't you ask college kids if they should shut down their libraries. Got anymore great ideas? And please don't compare a bookstore with a library. Apples and oranges.
Nesconset Dude October 11, 2012 at 12:59 AM
Cathy, you're wrong again. The libraries have more money than the post offices. Perhaps if you spent some more time reading in a library you'd have known that.
Cathy October 11, 2012 at 09:37 AM
Nesconset dude, what an ignorant statement. I know I should not engage, but why don't you try to use that dude mind of yours and try to figure out what I was saying.
Cathy October 11, 2012 at 09:46 AM
I just reread this entire thread and I see that some of you really think I am attacking the library, when I am not. I don't know about the rest of you, but I know I have had to cut my spending and be more budget aware in the last few years. Why has no one responded to the comment about only 500000 is spent on books out of a 13,000,000 budget? All I am saying is,be a little tighter with the purse strings, as we have all had to be. I use the library frequently and love it.
Nesconset Dude October 11, 2012 at 11:23 AM
Cathy, in modern politics they refer to what youm just said as 'flip-flopping'. No one denies that strings need to be tightened and taxes need to e kept in check, but it's not the library system that is bleeding everyone dry. Oh, and there was nothing ignorant about my statement - the post office is inherently bankrupt and has no money causing closures, whereas the libraries are expanding. No ignorance, just facts.
We Heart Long Island October 11, 2012 at 12:46 PM
Yes you are.
Cathy October 11, 2012 at 12:50 PM
Yo dude, why don't you investigate your facts. the only reason the post office is on the verge of bankruptcy is because of a law passed in 2006, stating that the USPS is to set aside money for 75 years of retirees health benefits, meaning they have to set aside money for people who have not even been born yet. Ask any business entity and that would bankrupt anyone. The fact is the post office realizes they have to make changes, people are not mailing letters and bills like they used to. They are e-mailing and paying bills online, so they do not need as many postal stations. They are adapting to this new digital age. I firmly believe in the library, I just think they should adapt also. In 2011 there were more ebooks sold than hardcover books. Why is it so hard for you to agree that maybe just maybe we did not have to increase the library budget this year? Just the facts dude.
re October 11, 2012 at 01:19 PM
When is this library going to buy some study guides and better public reference material. for the commack branch? They are always requesting materials from another library system. Programs are desperately needed. We have the renovated buildings . Now put something on those shelves. and in those community rooms
Frank October 11, 2012 at 01:22 PM
Of course Libraries have more money than the post office, Libraries receive all their funds through taxes so that supply of money is limitless until people wisen up and say thats enough where the post office is self sustaining (no tax money) and makes/loses money on their sales. Libraries would have been shuttered long ago if the needed to be self sustaining.
Nesconset Dude October 11, 2012 at 01:36 PM
I was aware of those facts, Cathy. Thank you for clarifying my statement. It doesn't matter why, really, but the libraries do in fact have more money that the post office.
+irish+ October 11, 2012 at 02:01 PM
Diane, when the subject of consolidating library branches was brought up, the Board received very strong negative feedback from the residents! The Kings park people said closed the Commack branch, the Commack people said close Kings Park. The director, Peter Ward, held a series of open meetings discuss proposals amd bringing the Smithtown Library into compliance with NYS standards. It was at these meetings that I spoke about the inequity of Commack being open seven days while Nesconset ( whose residents are taxed at the same rate) was closed on Monday. The Nesconset branch has only been open on Monday for a couple of years, and it's pretty crowded. .
John K Massaro October 11, 2012 at 02:05 PM
Let's start from the beginning Cathy, where you stated, "This building is an albatross of bloated spending..." & "...a library is a luxury we cannot afford to continue throwing money at so a few people can go". Better yet, let's go back a few threads where you also stated, "Maybe, a better idea would be to have smaller or less libraries in the town of smithtown." Or who can forget these gems? "Has anyone thought of the germs harboring in library books? Especially the children's books?". Or "I will take that $300, buy my own books, read the vast libraries of books available on my e-reader for free". It was only after you were called out on it that you completely did an about-face with, " I LOVE the library, I love the smell feel and look of books". Hmmm, the way you flip-flop, perhaps YOU should run for some political office?
Cathy October 11, 2012 at 02:10 PM
Hey John, why can't you love the library and be for fiscal responsibility? I loudly love to drive a Maserati, but all I can afford is a Volkswagen. I have thousands, yes thousands of books in my home, I love reading, but seriously John we cannot have everything we want in this world, sometimes we have to economize.
Pat October 11, 2012 at 02:31 PM
Its $8 MORE ! Then next year it will be a few dollars more. Not to mention, the police tax wants only $40 more this year, the town only wants $35 more this year, the county only wants $25 more this year, the fire dept only wants $25 more this year, the lighting district only wants $5 more this year, the schools only want $350 more this year. So the silly argument you get from each individual entity that " it's only $? this year, isn't it worth $? for it" doesnt hold up when your property tax bill goes up $500 for the year because everyone wants "just a little something"
John K Massaro October 11, 2012 at 02:37 PM
Let's call a spade a spade here, Cathy. In this thread, and countless prior threads pertaining to this subject, you soundly disagreed with this whole concept. We're not talking a major change in budget here, we're talking a lousy $8 increase yearly. YEARLY! You want to talk "fiscal responsibility" & "economizing", yet you speak of handing out Kindles to all residents as a substitute to libraries? Let's talk "priorities". How could you consider fiscal responsibility over the education, literacy, class & stature a decent library brings to the community? Perhaps you could afford that Maserati if you took a step back & looked at the big picture. A $70 Kindle for 17,000+ Kings Park residents alone, or an $8/yr increase in taxes, which one sounds more logical?
+irish+ October 11, 2012 at 02:43 PM
@Cathy: First of all, the entire pop. of Smithtown is 117,800, which includes children and non-registered voters. Secondly, I took issue with your stance "the library is an unaffordable LUXURY", not you personally. Lastly, I don't understand why those opposed are silent on our outrageous school taxes.
+irish+ October 11, 2012 at 02:49 PM
@Pat, it's no a "silly" position at all. The real burden is our school taxes, which are the lion's share of your real estate bill. Those increases are more like $400- $450 with no end in sight.
Ann October 16, 2012 at 11:51 PM
The library is a wonderful place and all of the librarians are helpful- especially the children's librarians. My son has had a library card since before he was one. My children regular go to the art programs, music prgrams, Mother Goose programs and other creative programs that gets young children excited about reading. My children participate in the summer reading program. Perhaps those 20 something are not "into" the library right now...they may feel differently once they turn 30 and have children. There are SO many resources beyond their online books- museum passes, city train tickets and much much more. What better investment other than schools is out than a library??


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